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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:08 am
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There are six major multi-national food corporations all run by Jews at the top like Monsanto. Who are buying up the worlds food production and forcing the native farmers into debt and off their farms causing poverty and starvation. They are creating a new feudal serfdom just like under their communism with collectivization of the farms. They have purposely made dairy and meat poisonous to eat with their farming practices. Its getting to the point pathogens are going to cross over into the human population sooner then later. Along with the raising cost of animal products due to the fall out from these practices. They are also trying to run organic local farming of animals and foods out of existence. By ruining everything. Just like they want to ruin all currency to create a Global Electronic Currency, they control. As Jewish Lenin stated the way to ruin a nation is to devalue the currency. By doing this they bring down the Goyim nations and put them under global control. Economic warfare and conquest.

Part of this is greed, however part of this is problem, reaction, solution. They are pushing to make it near impossible for the Goyim to have any access to animal foods. And most people will not eat anything that toxic. Nor will they have the money to buy the quality and expensive animal foods and better foods.

Within the Vegan Agenda is the Jewish Globalist Banking elites, UN. Is promoting Agenda 21 which is the Communist blueprint under green marketing. The Vegan movement promotes this by pushing Global Warming. Which was a hoax designed to create further globalization of Agenda 21. The Vegan ideology is Cultural Marxism which equals eating animal products to anything to do with nationalism, racialism and cultural purity and being Vegan to being Anti-White. The Jews want the Goyim on a Vegan diet like they did under Communism with created animal food scarcity were most people live on low quality bread and potatoes. The Jews state in their protocols they want to use food as a weapon. Veganism's political agenda is stated to end animal agriculture and have everyone on a Vegan diet.

Veganism is missing important fatty acids and vitamins that effect the brain and nervous system and makes people mentally spaced, totally exhausted and low mental energy. Many Vegans report that after eating animal products for the first time in years its like the light just got turned back on in their head and body. Without even B12 supplements people would become ill faster and have to go back to animal products. Vegan diets done long term cause numerous physical aliments that are dangerous. Studies on meat eaters, Vegetarians and Vegans. Showed Vegans have the worst health due to their diet. And are at high risk. Most of the people promoting Veganism have only done this diet for a few years not decades. 84% percent of people leave the Vegan diet after a few years or less many report they felt bad on it.

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:29 am
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IMO Veganism is the next jewish communist model. Low paying slaves, eating grass, too weak to even revolt or do anything against the Jew World Order, too frail at health, and too ungrounded as well. It's like the jews don't even want to feed the goyim an optimal diet. After all what does cattle eat, it eats solely grass. Humans aren't made for a full blown vegan diet.
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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:31 am
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Go Vegan so you can have a shirtless dance party in the back of this guys van....



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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:35 am
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That is North Korea. Most of the population lives on bark and grass and anything else. The wild life is gone because people ate it all to survive. Where the top of society is eating well and has access to all the best food supplies. Many of it imported. The Communist regime uses scarcity as the carrot and stick to rule with. Central planning was designed to allow for this.

Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
IMO Veganism is the next jewish communist model. Low paying slaves, eating grass, too weak to even revolt or do anything against the Jew World Order, too frail at health, and too ungrounded as well. It's like the jews don't even want to feed the goyim an optimal diet. After all what does cattle eat, it eats solely grass. Humans aren't made for a full blown vegan diet.

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:11 am

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HP Mageson666 wrote:
There are six major multi-national food corporations all run by Jews at the top like Monsanto. Who are buying up the worlds food production and forcing the native farmers into debt and off their farms causing poverty and starvation. They are creating a new feudal serfdom just like under their communism with collectivization of the farms. They have purposely made dairy and meat poisonous to eat with their farming practices. Its getting to the point pathogens are going to cross over into the human population sooner then later. Along with the raising cost of animal products due to the fall out from these practices. They are also trying to run organic local farming of animals and foods out of existence. By ruining everything. Just like they want to ruin all currency to create a Global Electronic Currency, they control. As Jewish Lenin stated the way to ruin a nation is to devalue the currency. By doing this they bring down the Goyim nations and put them under global control. Economic warfare and conquest.

Part of this is greed, however part of this is problem, reaction, solution. They are pushing to make it near impossible for the Goyim to have any access to animal foods. And most people will not eat anything that toxic. Nor will they have the money to buy the quality and expensive animal foods and better foods.

Within the Vegan Agenda is the Jewish Globalist Banking elites, UN. Is promoting Agenda 21 which is the Communist blueprint under green marketing. The Vegan movement promotes this by pushing Global Warming. Which was a hoax designed to create further globalization of Agenda 21. The Vegan ideology is Cultural Marxism which equals eating animal products to anything to do with nationalism, racialism and cultural purity and being Vegan to being Anti-White. The Jews want the Goyim on a Vegan diet like they did under Communism with created animal food scarcity were most people live on low quality bread and potatoes. The Jews state in their protocols they want to use food as a weapon. Veganism's political agenda is stated to end animal agriculture and have everyone on a Vegan diet.

Veganism is missing important fatty acids and vitamins that effect the brain and nervous system and makes people mentally spaced, totally exhausted and low mental energy. Many Vegans report that after eating animal products for the first time in years its like the light just got turned back on in their head and body. Without even B12 supplements people would become ill faster and have to go back to animal products. Vegan diets done long term cause numerous physical aliments that are dangerous. Studies on meat eaters, Vegetarians and Vegans. Showed Vegans have the worst health due to their diet. And are at high risk. Most of the people promoting Veganism have only done this diet for a few years not decades. 84% percent of people leave the Vegan diet after a few years or less many report they felt bad on it.



Yes preach! I talk to many vegans and watch alot of them and they have some virtue signaling on a diet like what? "we ah humans, we should not eat da animals" *sigh* its retarded because as man we are apart of nature and as you say it is healthy to get those fatty acids that meat grants! Funny you also mention the electronic currency, stuff like "bit coin" that stuff kinda gets on my nerves because what is wrong with physical money carrying a nation's beloved country men as image plastered on the front and cannot be deleted on error. Had talked to some illuminati luciferians nuts on this and they have so much greed as to say they switch over to bitcoin just because they get more moo! lah! cattle -_-
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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:42 am
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The illuminati was put together by Mayer Rothschild, Warburg and Jacob Frank, on Frank's direction. Frank was the Jewish leader of the Frankist movement which was a Jewish messianic movement to bring about the Jewish world government. He was trained as a Rabbi by other Jewish Kabbalistic adepts from Turkey, Domeh Jews. Who followed Rabbi Zevi's movement of the same. Frank considered himself the rebirth of Rabbi Zevi.

Mayer was a Cohen Jew and raised in a important Rabbi's home and was the servant of the Rabbi he was going to become one but switched to banking.

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Rothschild and Warburg both got the money to get started in banking from Frank's Jewish movement. The point of the Illuminate was to take over the Free Mason's and replace their Hellenism with Communism by an earlier name. Which they did. The Jews took over the Grand Orient lodge in Paris and launched the revolution with their Jacobin's who instilled the Terror. This was the Jewish agenda. French writers commented on the Jewish plot behind the revolution.




There are no illuminati Luciferians. Today the lodges are run by Jewish ideology and power. The top lodge of World Free Masonry that gives orders to all the others is the Binai Brith. The Jewish lodge. The xians called jesus, Lucifer as jesus is called Lucifer in Latin in the bible in second Peter and Revelations. This is what Pike commented on. However this means Morning Star. And was because this was the name of Osiris and Dionysus whom the Jews took the image of and changed the story into the program of Christianity. They also stole the titles as well. Moses was altered and stolen off Bacchus who was called Mises and Moses by the Greeks and Egyptians. Meaning Fetched from the river.

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Had talked to some illuminati luciferians nuts on this and they have so much greed as to say they switch over to bitcoin just because they get more moo! lah! cattle -_-

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:59 am
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While I point out the Vegan agenda. Many Vegans are caring people and I don't fault them and many of them are not deep into actual Vegan ideology. If a person feels that strongly about animals. Then just be plant based. Veganism was originally just a planted based vegetarian diet. Watson stated if you eat a plant based diet your Vegan. That was all. It got taken over by the Marxist and progressive left later on. And then Jewish creeps like Singer started ranting about Animal Liberation and bestiality as moral. Maybe his Jewish wife is so ugly and animal like being married to her was already like bestiality anyway.

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:09 am

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Wait wait, are you saying people like vegangainz are not healthy?

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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:31 am
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Vegan Gains admitted he has to take a B12 injection because the tablets are no longer working. This is around the four to five year mark when Vegans start to run into troubles on the diet.

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:52 am

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like 4 years ago i was shitting around and saying ooohhhh im vegaan and ofcourse i didnt ate meat... now guess what happend:

- i am a person who is BARELY sick ok? the only thing i had in the past few years were some minor allergies in the spring when my nose was closed down for 7-10 days where i couldnt breath right because of all the plants outside... but it wasnt THAT BAD...

- after i STOPPED EATING MEAT, in the next 6-8 months i began to be SERIOUSLY SICK multiple times

- my allergies were very often and really REALLY BAD!

- i got angina (which i NEVER EVER HAD IN MY LIFE) and my doctor was really like: WTF HOW THE FUCK COULD I GET THIS AND FROM WHERE?? and this angina was really bad... really fucking bad

- 2 times i had serious problems with my stomach and guts (dont wanna go into details)

- i was tired all the time which was the reason why i had to repeat one year of my apprenticeship

-my immune system dropped massivly....

so after all of this i was thinking and then some other vegan bitch came to me and started saying ooohh yeeess you have to take iron, b12 and bla bla bla... and i was like? wtf.... what kind of life is that that if i stop eating meat i have to buy supplements?.... after that i just said to myself: fuck that shit i would rather eat meat again (which i am doing normaly almost every day), then playing around with my health... i do feel sorry for the treatment of animals in all those industries but that doesnt mean i shouldnt eat meat.... but yeah i do realise all of this FULLY now, but then i didnt ofcourse, just saying... stupidity hurts

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:54 am

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So true! I know a really dedicated Yogi who practices daily, and (unfortunately) has been fooled into this BS jewish veganism for Goyim. In fact, I see it everywhere in the yoga community here. They're all into vegan and gluten free diets. Anyhow, this man has recently become severely ill and is weak, listless, bruises easily, is just totally/completely physically falling apart. He now is having trouble with cognitive processes, he doesn't have the body musculature power he had a few years ago (gee I wonder why?!?) hes exactly like a clock winding down. I told him look, you HAVE to eat meat! You're killing yourself! But he would hear none of it! Infuriating! I wanted to smack him, shake him. These people are like lemmings racing to run off a cliff. Another one I know, he's developed cancer after years of veganism; his brother forced him to begin eating meat again (which I think/hope is going to maybe save his life).

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:58 am

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FWIW, I have read that the Chinese slaves in the labor camps (they still exist even now) are given very little meat in their regular diet. Also, it seems that the (((UN))) is one of the main groups pushing this idea that humans have to eat less meat, not for our health's sake, but for increased globalized control over food production and consumption.
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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:16 pm
I have seen several young people claiming that they "try to be vegan" or "are trying real hard to go vegan" or "have almost managed to become vegan".

Both their body and deep down their soul know that it's not right and it hurts them but because they are dumb and believe all that the jewtrix told them they force themselves into something they hate. They remind me of these Xtian zombies who would scourge themselves until they bled (they still do in the Philippines !!) because muy church said to do so.

Of course these wanna-be vegans also buy into all the (((propaganda))) in the world : must hate white people, must race mix to show how (((tolerant))) and (((free))) we are. Must stop freedom of speech because it hurts rabbi goldshekelkikesteinberg. Must be holier then thou and do always what the kike system say ! And then these sheeps have the arrogance to claim being "different" or "unique".

Very disgusting.
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Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:11 pm
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Alterations Of The Ancient Texts,Veganism

As stated the in the article: Evil. The people imprisoned in the catholic church were put on a vegan diet of bread, black coffee and vegetables. They were given skim milk once in awhile. To the point when the lady was able to have her first meal after escaping she was given a cup of normal milk and she couldn't hold it down. The enemy created christian religion, forced vegetarianism and veganism on the populations as much as possible.


This article is revealing as to how much the ancient religions have been corrupted on so many levels. They forced this vegetarianism on the populations later on and tried to rewrite history to conform to this lie what else did they corrupt....

Remember Rama was a hunter and so was Shiva.



https://perichandra.wordpress.com/2010/ ... -ramayana/


There are a significant number of passages in Valmiki Ramayana where the principal characters used meat in their religious rites and daily diet. Here are some of the passages with original quotes. It was meat that would not be acceptable today to a typical Hindu. It included wild boar (wild pig) and reptile meat (mangoose or varamus)!

Please note that the Tamil poet Kamban (around 11th century CE) completely sanitizes his Ramayana from meat diet for these characters. So much so that the first thing Rama utters when he scolds Sita after defeating Ravana is “ஊன் திறம் உவந்தனை” (“you enjoyed meat eating”) and scolds her again a few verses later as having eaten the bright flesh of beings. Shows how much values had changed in the intervening thousand years and caused imbalance in the value system resulting in the loss of priorities.

Onto the Valmiki passages:
•Sita promising Ganga meat-rice on safe return:

From Ayodhya Kandam:52: As Sita crosses Ganga she promises to Ganga what she will offer on safe return: “thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice (basically briyani)”

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ayodhya/s ... _frame.htm

suraaghaTasahasreNa maamsabhuutodanena cha |
yakshye tvaam prayataa devi puriim punarupaagataa || 2-52-89

89. devii= “Oh, goddess! Upaagata= After reaching; puriim= the city (Ayodhya); punaH= again; yakshhye= I shall worship (you); suraaghata sahasreNa= with thousand pots of spirituous liquor; maamsa bhuutodanena cha = and jellied meat with cooked rice; prayataa= well-prepared for the solemn rite.”

“Oh, goddess! After reaching back the city of Ayodhya, I shall worship you with thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice well prepared for the solemn rite.”
•Lakshmana and Rama hunting deer and wild boar (wild pig):

Then on reaching the other shore Rama and Lakshmana hunt four types of animals including wild boar, antelope, spotted antelope and another species of antelope and take their flesh and hurry in hunger to a tree as it was getting dark. Also makes one wonder how much meat they ate in one go as it is too much for three adults even for warriors.
This is the last sloka in the same chapter as above:

tau tatra hatvaa caturaH mahaa mR^igaan |
varaaham R^ishyam pR^iSatam mahaa rurum |
aadaaya medhyam tvaritam bubhukSitau|
vaasaaya kaale yayatur vanaH patim || 2-52-102

102. hatvaa= having killed; tatra= there; chaturaH= four; mR^igaan= deer (namely); varaaham= Varaaha; R^ishyam= Risya; pR^ishhatam= PR^isata; mahaaruru= (and) Mahaaruru; (the four principal species of deer); aadayaa= and taking; tvaritam= quickly; medhyam= the portions that were pure; tou= Rama and Lakshmana; bubhukshhitou= being hungry as they were; yayatuH= reached; vanaspatim= a tree; vaasayaa= to take rest; kaale= in the evening.

Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and taking quickly the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshmana reached a tree to take rest in the evening.
•Sita telling Ravana in the disguise of a Brahmin that Rama will bring back deer, reptiles and wild boar for meal:

From Aranya Kandam: The different types of meat Sita offers to the Brahmin guest (in which disguise Ravana is) once Rama brings them from his hunt. Note Deer, Wild Boar and a reptile (உடும்பு?) are offered.

samaashvasa muhuurtam tu shakyam vastum iha tvayaa || 3-47-22
aagamiSyati me bhartaa vanyam aadaaya puSkalam |
ruruun godhaan varaahaan ca hatvaa aadaaya amiSaan bahu || 3-47-23

22b, 23. muhuurtam samaashvasa= for a moment, be comfortable; tvayaa iha vastum shakyam= by you, here, to take rest, possible; me bhartaa= my, husband; ruruun= stag with black stripes; godhaan= mongooses like [civet-like mammals of the family Viverridae, esp. of the genus Herpestes, Marathi manguus]; varaahaan ca= wild-boars, also; hatvaa= on killing; bahu amiSaan aadaaya= aplenty, meat, on taking; puSkalam vanyam aadaaya= plentiful, forest produce, on taking; aagamiSyati= will be coming [soon.]

“Be comfortable for a moment, here it is possible for you to make a sojourn, and soon my husband will be coming on taking plentiful forest produce, and on killing stags, mongooses, wild boars he fetches meat, aplenty. [3-47-22b, 23]
•Ravana was in the guise of a Brahmin (dvija):

saH tvam naama ca gotram ca kulam aacakSva tattvataH |
ekaH ca daNDakaaraNye kim artham carasi dvija || 3-47-24

24. dvija= oh, Brahman; saH tvam= such as you are; naama ca gotram ca kulam ca= name, also, parentage, also, caste, also; tattvataH aacakSva= in actuality, make mention of; ekaH ca= lonesomely, also; daNDaka araNye in Dandaka, forest; kim artham carasi for what, reason, you wander.

“Such as you are, oh, Brahman, you may make mention of your name, parentage and caste, in their actuality. For what reason you are wandering in Dandaka forest lonesomely?” Thus Seetha questioned Ravana. [3-47-24]

So the upshot of all this is that having forgotten all this modern Hindus overreact to people from other religions eating pig meat or reptile meat as if they were strange animals or demons and bias their interreligious attitudes in a very negative way. We have seen that even Brahmins of Valmiki’s days (about 2000 years ago) took it normally and so modern association of vegetarianism with Brahmins is much later.

For a solid book on how meat eating including beef eating thrived in Vedic period and continued much later see D.N. Jha’s “The Myth of the Holy Cow” which was originally banned by the BJP administration.


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Vegetarianism:

With caraka samhita which has been stated to be the oldest Ayurvedic text it state: Sharirabrinhane Nanyat Khadyam Mamsadwishishyate." Which translates to 'For the promotion and nourishment of the body, no other food item is better than meat." Another Ayurvedic text the Bhava Prakash, states 'Sadyohatasya Mamsam Syadbyadhidhatiyathaamritam', which translates to 'the meat of freshly killed animals is like Amirt (the ultimate lifefiving fluid that sustains the Divine)' We have the Bagabhatt (Astanga Samgraha) stating nothing equals meat for promotion of health and substance of the body." The Vedic text Satapatha Brahamana states 'Paramam Annadyam Yan Mamsam', meaning "Meat is the best kind of food."
Meat is listed under the sattvic category. "The life substance."


"Consumption of meat improves one's mind inner energy and strength; and that the consumption of fish restores one generative power." The Yoga of Power.

Post Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:20 pm

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Is it me? Or does a person who is vegan look like their skin has a slight hue to it. Like its discolored and unhealthy.
This too, shall pass.
Just keep that in mind when your facing unwanting temptations.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:39 am

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Zygisrko wrote:
Is it me? Or does a person who is vegan look like their skin has a slight hue to it. Like its discolored and unhealthy.


no, it is not just you, i know a few vegans and vegetarians, but vegans look the worst from the outside and ALL OF THEM have health problems... ALL OF THEM...sad to say even my mother, but she is vegan or vegetarian i dunno ill just say non-flesh-eater for like 2 maybe 3 years, but the arguments are stupid etc etc and when i try to explain something she doesnt want to hear it and claims its all healthy

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In my country Veganism is being puched to the standard public who does not care about veganism; most cafes now offer "vegan croissant" and those who are without are starting to eat that vegan alternative as they think they should comply to this new "fashion".
In the while, quality food is becoming extremely expensive while cheap food quality is lowering, they are trying to create a crap-eating mass with vegan tendencies opposite to a small elite (jews and their Gentile slaves/associates) eating good quality expensive food; thus they are trying to cancel the middle-class even in food choiche. So, cutting out meat (expensive) in favour of cheap grains or pasta or so on will be a good solutions = vegan forced.
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Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:07 am

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Noticed a lot of misinformation on this thread from the commentators regarding the consumption of meat, while it is true that veganism causes B12 deficiency the idea that people need to eat animal flesh is absurd and literally every unbiased scientific study ever conducted supports this and it is well understood by the medical community regardless of if they tell people that meat should be eaten rarely if at all. And so yes of course B12 deficiency is something one must avoid that is not a green light to go full retard when it comes to animal products, less is definitely more in this case and EVERYBODY should lower their animal product intake but not remove it entirely e.g use common sense.

Once upon a time milk and other such animal products could be eaten aplenty as they weren't pumped full of estrogenic compounds and literal poison but that is simply no longer the case, the jews have seen to that and so animal products have to be minimized and no it is not ideal however, unless you can guarantee the organic nature of what your eating it is better than eating the poison that passes for animal products nowdays.

TLDR we are plant based omnivores this is how we are designed from out teeth to our intestines to our repulsion at gore, yes we can eat meat but it is substandard and inefficient for us and most importantly due to the jews destructive practices in agriculture it is lethal.

This topic is important when it comes to displaying the dangers of veganism but I feel it needed to reinforce that the current western diet is just as bad if not worse. Remember Hitler was a vegetarian a person of such importance was probably drawn towards that diet to improve his longevity and lower the risk of accidental death the fact that he was an animal lover was most likely just the catalyst.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:57 pm

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I remember being told in history class that back in the day kids didnt get milk after their 7th birthday and that they were fed beer instead.

And now I understand that that is a plain hoax. Kids were given the taste of alcoholic beverage, but in a healthy society getting drunk is frowned upon. I cannot speak about this as of late since teens DO get drunk and wasted on drugs too and coma drinking is even more apparent and happens more often that is most likely publicly known.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:16 pm
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Allhailsaytan wrote:
Noticed a lot of misinformation on this thread from the commentators regarding the consumption of meat....


Were specifically?



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Allhailsaytan wrote:
while it is true that veganism causes B12 deficiency the idea that people need to eat animal flesh is absurd and literally every unbiased scientific study ever conducted supports this and it is well understood by the medical community regardless of if they tell people that meat should be eaten rarely if at all.


The long term studies on Vegans, Vegetarians and meat eaters shown Vegans have the worst health of all.

People who don't eat meat get sick if they don't take supplements or eat other animal products which comes down to dairy which is liquid meat and eggs which is a meat product. People who don't eat any animal products will become dangerously ill. Vegans have had strokes, been put in wheel chairs, had their spines crumble, had heart disease and on from being on a diet with no animal products and lack of supplements or supplements that didn't work enough. Most people leave Veganism because they don't feel good on the diet.


Allhailsaytan wrote:
And so yes of course B12 deficiency is something one must avoid that is not a green light to go full retard when it comes to animal products..


No one stated that it was. The healthiest people on earth eat a diet of around 80 percent fresh vegetables and fruits with clean animal products such as the Seventh Day Adventists. The Adventists who ate some meat in the form of fish had the best health. Weston Price stated a person should eat either one egg a day, one piece of meat the same size or a glass of whole fat milk. For animal intake and the rest by plant foods. However a lot of Vegans end up going Paleo when they come off Veganism because their body is so starved for animal products. Lierre Keith is the most popularized example of this.




Allhailsaytan wrote:
Once upon a time milk and other such animal products could be eaten aplenty as they weren't pumped full of estrogenic compounds and literal poison but that is simply no longer the case, the jews have seen to that and so animal products have to be minimized and no it is not ideal however, unless you can guarantee the organic nature of what your eating it is better than eating the poison that passes for animal products nowdays.


So we went from " the idea that people need to eat animal flesh is absurd and literally every unbiased scientific study ever conducted supports this and it is well understood by the medical community regardless of if they tell people that meat should be eaten rarely if at all". To if its organic you can go "full retard" on eating them after all?



Allhailsaytan wrote:
TLDR we are plant based omnivores


Plant based Omnivore is a contradiction in terms.


Allhailsaytan wrote:
This topic is important when it comes to displaying the dangers of veganism but I feel it needed to reinforce that the current western diet is just as bad if not worse. Remember Hitler was a vegetarian a person of such importance was probably drawn towards that diet to improve his longevity and lower the risk of accidental death the fact that he was an animal lover was most likely just the catalyst.


Vegans on the Vegan version of the standard western diet had the worst health out of all. They are eating the same diet minus animal products. Hitler was vegetarian which means he ate animal products. He was not Vegan.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:47 pm
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With supplements B12 alone will destroy a persons health without it. And Vegans have problems with absorption of B12 over time from supplements.

But its also calcium, iron, DHA, K2 and on. That Vegans are having to take supplements for. While plants have some of these in them. The amount of plant food one would have to have for these is a lot, and the ability of the individual to convert it is the issue.

Veganism is a political agenda its not a nutritional science.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:40 pm

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To anyone still riding the vegan train thinking supplements will make everything ok, think twice. No one I know, myself included, that has been vegan/vegetarian and taken them has actually had them work. That doesn't mean they don't, but I'm just putting my experience out there. I'm just another person who can vouch against this. I did everything right. I ate quality vegetarian food and took supplements with vigilance. My tests continued to show anemia, etc year after year. My doctor claimed it may be an absorption issue and gave me stuff to help the vitamins absorb and it didn't work. Now that I eat meat and no longer take iron pills, my tests show no more anemia.
It's ironic this was posted now. An old friend from a different part of the country spontaneously came to visit me the day this was posted and is here now. She has been a vegetarian for 16 years. She's in her 20s and may be actually dying from severe b12 deficiency and other deficiencies. She's 80 pounds and has aged alot. She can no longer drive, etc. She's been taking b12 pills and her levels do not change. The doctors keep telling her it takes a while. Whatever. I told her that due to her symptoms, from a Chinese medicine point of view and from the obvious findings, she needs to eat some eggs! I boiled her a bunch and have been trying to get her back to health. 20 something years old and this has been debilitating for her- her words. She's about the most stubborn person I met about not eating meat, though. She'd rather die, so too bad for her being that way. One time years ago I made her a huge pot of veggie soup and she wouldn't eat it because there was beef bouillon in it. She is dedicated to the diet. But it's catching up with her. So there's one more story for the pile. The word it out!
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Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:19 pm

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Someone in another thread mentioned that it's bad to eat raw veggies and fruit but it's good to eat them cooked/steamed. Wouldn't that take away from its natural nutrition once it gets cooked/steamed? Hope it's okay to ask here instead of the other thread.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:20 pm

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I love eating raw veggies and fruit. I used to dislike steamed veggies, we'll most of them but lately I've been getting to like them more. I hope I don't have to give up the raw ones tho.

Post Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:22 pm
The important is to not eat too much fatty red meat.
"Ketogenic" Diet is absolutly horrible I tried it a few months ago, I felt completly SHIT and without any physical strengh (I wasn't able to lift any weight) and it also makes your arteries full of fat over time.

Now I eat meat 2 times almost every day and I have no problem + I'm making great gains with work outs.
The thing is I count eggs and fish as meat, some vegetarians might disagree, for me it's the exact same thing (animal source of protein and fat).
I rarely eat red meat and when I do I go with lean red meat.

People that think eating meat hurts your health, really get out of your pychosis ! For instance how is eating wild salmon from alaska hurting my health ? It has 25g protein and 5g very useful fat for 100g, and less then 120kcal for 100g !
This is not hurting in any way this is very beneficial. This is much healthier then abusing raw fruits that can be full of sugar. I go with cooked vegetables (I vary them) I don't eat many fruits myself.
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Post Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:36 am

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In case I confused anyone, I wasn't trying to imply that I only eat raw veggies and fruit but they are the majority of my diet. I definitely eat dairy products and eggs almost everyday at least once and keep to eating red/white meat a few times a week and when I do its only once a day and maybe some days twice (like the days I work out) but that's it. I try to make it small portions at that too.

I hate most of not all fish.... lol. I know I know it's good for you (the fresh healthy ones) but I can't stand the taste nor the smell of most seafood. Unless it's sushi (high quality but it's so pricey :/) or lobster... I'm very picky with my food if that hasn't shown yet haha.


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