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Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:11 pm
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Enki1690 wrote:
What do you make of fascism HP Mage?

I like British Fascism, not very popular over here but then again is anything that we do ha ha


Fascism was a centrist movement that worked to deal with the social problems of the time and with the Marxist threat. It had some good points in the Fascist Manifesto, its anti bourgeois stance, its desire to manifest autarky, its stance on corporatism, wanting to unify society with class cooperation and ethno nationalist identity. Its desire to have a culture that creates superior individuals and uses the state to manifest this like a artists tool to work upon the people. It also had some draw backs and in the Italian situation it was destroyed by the aristocracy and conservative, bourgeois. Similar to what happened in Germany during the war, these type of elements also formed the fifth column that betrayed the National Socialist State.


My opinion is the best elements of Fascism are in National Socialism and the worst elements in the Marxist state. Which makes sense as Marxism is about collectivization and would naturally abhor the individualist aspects. And just see it as way to create a martial state of propaganda of which to have the mass mind rallied around to manipulate it.


In the end any society without a spiritual practice and pole will even with the best idea's, in time fall apart. The core of the Aryan society was Dharma which is shown as the eight fold wheel. This is the symbol of Raja Yoga which is originally more referred to as Astanga Yoga, the eightfold yoga......The eight methods of enlightenment to the super conscious state. YOGA IS DHARMA. As a society spiritually evolves it will change its social-political order. Just as the inner order of thinking changes with the practices. Till it arrives at the golden mean. A perfected society and People. National Socialism real success is not in names of systems. But it was lead by spiritually highly ascended beings like Hitler. The failure of the Italian situation was it was not. The failure of the German situation is they didn't have enough spiritually awakened and ascending people.


This is why the enemy corrupted the original eight fold path with Buddhism-Jainism the anti-Vedic subversive ideology. To ruin society and reduce it to corruption and chaos. So their alien masters can rule the ruins. And farm the Goyim.

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Understanding National Socialism
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4. Is National Socialism Fascist?

There is much misinformation when it comes to Fascism, and because of this is that most people who talk about it have no idea about what it is really about. The term is often used to define the European nationalist movements and anticommunist character - especially the first half of the twentieth century.

In fact, the term “fascism” seems to have no single explanation, since people use it for what they understand, as well for nationalist movements or to any political side which is opposite - pejoratively.

National Socialism is almost always related to the fascist movement of the 1920s and also by many regarded as a “fascist ideology”. It is often said that the NS is a branch of the movement of Mussolini, or that somehow had been influenced by this, or even a racial Fascism with applied principles. All are false claims of defamation and speculation.

Is National Socialism originated from Fascism?

Both the Fascist Party and the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) began in the year 1919. Thus, the two movements have emerged around the same time, with no contact between them. The reason there are certain similarities simply because they were born in a fertile historical context for nationalist and anti-communist groups.

While National Socialism arose from the formation of a Worldview, Fascism emerged as an anti-ideological movement, which was only based on the post-Marxist unionism. Fascism appeared as a system of circumstance, a reaction to communist and anarchist advance in Italy. Fascism did not have a specific doctrine as National Socialism, just a plan in relation to counterrevolutionary movements of the Red. In Mussolini’s manifesto there was no point or any trace of doctrinal or spiritual inspiration, just plain political demands such as women's suffrage, reorganization of the transportation sector, reducing the retirement age, abolition of the Senate, etc... Almost no revolutionary measures compared to those of the National Socialist movement.

In 1922, during the March on Rome, where thousands of Black Shirts put Mussolini in power occurred. On November 9, 1923, the National Socialists try the same thing in Munich, and failed, resulting in mass arrests, including Adolf Hitler himself. It was this, if in any way, National Socialism was inspired by Fascism. National Socialism was the idea of a coup and the formation of paramilitary groups like the Black Shirts and SA.

In 1920, Adolf Hitler and Gottfried Feder had formulated the 25 points of the NSDAP and in 1925, the book Mein Kampf was published in Germany, while Mussolini had nothing but a nationalist and anticommunist discourse. The achievements of the Fascist Party were merely political and administrative, lacking a doctrine or as a complete worldview National Socialism.

Then, in 1932, the term “fascism” appears on the Italian Encyclopedia in a space of 37 pages full of photos and graphics. This was the only attempt by Mussolini - Ten years after coming to power - to include a doctrinal and philosophical aspect in his movement. Although the text is signed by the Duce, it is known that it was written almost entirely by Giovanni Gentile. This same text is then published in book form in 1935 - ten years after the release of Mein Kampf.

Although Hitler and Mussolini cultivated a friendship for years, no one was carried away by their opinions, which were almost exclusively political and economic. They had advocated a vision of a completely new world. If Adolf Hitler admired the Duce it was for having led Italy as the first European country to contain communism, never for their ideas.

If the fascist movement inspired Hitler and National Socialism it was only at the practical level: the idea of the coup - later abandoned by Hitler - and the creation of SA. However, it is much more likely to National Socialist Worldview had inspired the Fascist attempt at creating a doctrine.

Some measures and Ideas of a Corporative Fascist State

The Fascist philosophy never had any racial character before contact with National Socialism. In fact, the 1st current anti-Zionist Fascists does not appear until 1938 - five years after the arrival to power of Hitler and Mussolini. The most surprising is that there was a reasonable amount of Jews in Fascist movement and often occupying important positions, and even after 1938, very few of these Jews lost their positions in the “Italian” state.

The Fascist State declared that foreign Jews over 65 years of age, and before 1938 contracted marriage with Italians - the same miscegenation that the National Socialists were trying to PREVENT with the Nuremberg Laws - were now considered Italian.
The Jews do not assimilate; they infiltrate a state from within and become parasitic. The Jews can never be regarded as European. Just merely political vision and state of Fascism and other current “democracies” may accept Zionists in their homeland and still call them national!

Is it possible to be Fascist and National Socialist at once?

Almost no one knows the similarities between Fascism and National Socialism, but their differences are much more crucial.

“The state is a means to an end. Its purpose is the conservation and progress of a society from the point of physical and spiritual sight.”
“The human right overrides state law.”
-Adolf Hitler

By National Socialism, the state is a means of preserving the breed, to improve the human being as an organic instrument created by man for man. The State in the National Socialist conception exists only as the people accept it as it exists for them.

Only races create culture, values and civilization. The state preserves and cooperates only in its progress. The state is the political and administrative implementation of a series of values developed naturally over time by the people itself.

“Nothing outside the State, nothing against the State, all for the state”
-Benito Mussolini

For Fascism, the State is all. The State formulates and implements the life of man. Individual needs are suppressed, while the purpose is ALWAYS the state. The state does not exist for man, but the man for the state. The state produces; the state creates the nation and people.

Fascism never believed in a natural and organic community, had no consideration of the blood, or even the people, it was just a model of state policy in a geographical area bounded by maps.

Fascism does not differ much from the current “democracies” that are merely as political states without preserving race and culture with no great moral or value. As European governments now accept immigrants and not Aryans, the Fascist State also accepted them and still regarded them as legitimate.

The Fascist conception of the State is, in principle, purely political and administrative. It is thus, totally unnatural and therefore anti-national Socialist. The Fascist worldview is in perpetual conflict with ours, so there would never be a state that was both Fascist and National Socialist.

Several of those who proclaim themselves National Socialists also consider themselves Fascists - usually because they are of Italian origin - but this is just a demonstration of ignorance and no study on what Fascism really is.

It is absolutely impossible to be Fascist and National Socialist at the same time because they are radically opposed ideologies and doctrines at crucial points. National Socialism presents a worldview grounded in the Natural Laws and moved by noble ideals where conservation and progress of the people is the purpose of life, and through the state, this purpose is achieved. As for Fascism the people are nothing, the state is everything and people are only subjects.
We have nothing to do with the fascist “doctrine”. A National Socialist is just a National Socialist.

Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:15 pm
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It should be noted Hitler also wanted to create a autarky for Germany.

Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:41 pm

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Sometimes I find naming all of these things totally arbitrary and useless. You either like the guys in power or you dont. You either have jews and their cucks in power or you have gentiles. The name of your system is just marketing. It won't change anything if jews subvert your system regardless what you call it. I feel the same about contracts and legal documents. They are all worthless on their own.

To me people mean everything. You either made a deal with a trustworthy person or you didn't and a shaving off a tree with ink all over it changes nothing. The same goes to the constitution or anythin else. You had George Washington in power and things went one way. You have jews in power now and things go to a place that has nothing to do with the constitution. The constitution didn't change or have any power on its own and the people still did whatever they wanted. To me rules and documents are more flexible than people believe.

As for Fascism I do tend to like the idea that sometimes some of us have to put on our big boy pants and tell the kids to stop writing with crayons on the walls. I think sometimes the government needs to come along and just tell people how things will be. This should be no issue if you have the right people in power. For example a dictatorship might actually work very well if the right guy was in charge, it's just that usually the wrong guy gets in charge.

Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:03 pm
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Ultimately the only civilizations that lasted where the Dharma civilizations. Which lasted intact for thousands of years without decline as a civilization and culture. Its also important to note they didn't die a natural death either. They were murdered by xianity, islam, Buddhism. If not for this, these societies would still exist today.

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Sometimes I find naming all of these things totally arbitrary and useless. You either like the guys in power or you dont. You either have jews and their cucks in power or you have gentiles. The name of your system is just marketing. It won't change anything if jews subvert your system regardless what you call it. I feel the same about contracts and legal documents. They are all worthless on their own.

To me people mean everything. You either made a deal with a trustworthy person or you didn't and a shaving off a tree with ink all over it changes nothing. The same goes to the constitution or anythin else. You had George Washington in power and things went one way. You have jews in power now and things go to a place that has nothing to do with the constitution. The constitution didn't change or have any power on its own and the people still did whatever they wanted. To me rules and documents are more flexible than people believe.

As for Fascism I do tend to like the idea that sometimes some of us have to put on our big boy pants and tell the kids to stop writing with crayons on the walls. I think sometimes the government needs to come along and just tell people how things will be. This should be no issue if you have the right people in power. For example a dictatorship might actually work very well if the right guy was in charge, it's just that usually the wrong guy gets in charge.

Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:13 pm

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I still think we don't have all this ironed out. We seem to be flying from the seat of our pants. I like how the Italians were very involved in the day to day operations and I also like Hitler view towards human advancement. I think you must attack from both angles. It does not good to have our heads totally in the clouds and forget about the day to day policies and operations but we also can't forget about the clouds and advancing spiritually.

To me the Fascist perspective holds society in place and gives structure and security so we can work on advancing as many people as possible.

I still think the American system seems alien to anything going on in Europe be it NS or Fascism. I prefer it in some ways. It seems they planned better and had more structure. It seems more refined.

I am still at a loss as far as representation goes. We have Fascism and Hitler getting rid of the lawmaking assemblies and then the American system is building enormous capital building for representation. It seems there is something not being reconciled here. It seems all these systems were created by Satanists but common ground is lacking.

How the hel does the empire of Orion run? What do they do? Do they have a system more like America or Italian Fascism or what?

Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:11 pm
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Fascism did not have the spiritual and occult background the NS did have. If it did, the war would have been won. Hitler treated the Duce in equal terms, but they were not equals. The Duce being a stubborn person and everything did war mistakes and did cause other issues. Only to prove whatever, equality to Hitler or something.

That doesn't void out the importance of this personality either. Duce has his place to the war commander pantheon anyway. But it should be a lesson to people who don't really care about spiritual foundations and only care about being a 'glorious' chesspawn. Like so many in the NS movement today. You may 'win' and 'succeed' but at the crucial time Duce threw off all the war effort. Because he couldn't see Germany doing all the work. Instead of just backing up Hitler and getting it done with. Duce decided to attack Greece which cost the Axis the war.

And why did he choose to do this. Because no reason whatsover, just 'muh glory'. Duce had jewtrix in his head, Hitler didn't. Hitler was guided by the Gods and scored all the victories, the Duce didn't.

Duce was a great leader but he remained at that also an average war commander. Hitler was a Prophet of the highest order and only used 'leading' as a means to bring a higher social revolution that would bring spiritual evolution. Even the war was in opposition to that ideal, not Hitler just ruling. He ruled with a purpose that was the problem of the jews. And he almost achieved it. And return to Dharmic Sanity.

The Fascists were also lighter to the jewish problem. And didn't do the bourgeoisie spring cleaning necessary. Also, the Fascists had the Vatican right on their door. That doesn't make anything easy for shite. Duce should have stormed the jewcy Vatican while he had the chance. Because it was shilling and machinating against both his ally Hitler, the Italian people, and him as well. The Vatican was acting as a second state. So a lot of retards who think they are entitled to rule the galaxy because they were born in a famous monastery. Posed an obstacle. But then again the spiritual foundations of fascism could have been better.

Also Duce wanted war irrespectively of checking out if he would win, lose, or anything else. Just to be called Imperator for a week. That cost him his power. The NS compared to Fascism was not only more effective in wartime but also far less warmongering. The kikes used this against Duce.

So in my opinion the problem lies in the aims. Fascism is basically a product of its time, and it did a lot of damage to the jews. National Socialism is something more eternal and meant to last. Also between the two National Socialism is a more free environment as well. Because it embraces past and future, not only past. But it was expressed as clearly as it could on its time as well.
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Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:06 am

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What you have told me was very helpful. It leads me to believe that Fascism is intellectually and spiritually underdeveloped NS. It's like it's little runt brother or the calf that died young. I think Trump supporters could fit into this category. Except they are 100x less developed in their aims than even the Italian fascists were.

Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:11 am
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The Fascist's were also weak in the fact they could never unify as Fascist's they were left and right Fascist's within the Party it just went on and on.

Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:37 am

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The Fascist's were also weak in the fact they could never unify as Fascist's they were left and right Fascist's within the Party it just went on and on.


I can add this attitude still lives today as competition is the base of. Italian mass mind, without competition with "neighbour" most structures would falll apart.

Anyway Fascism saved half of our ass! (I'm talian)
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Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:23 am

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So would it be correct to say that Hitler and the Nazis were Spiritual Satanists but due to the very low level, or non-existence, of Spiritual Satanism in the society, the Party was therefore Fascist? The 3rd Reich is Spiritual Satanism without the, or with very low amount of, spirituality overall, thus Fascism?
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Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:55 am
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What is the general attitude about this period in Italian society?

It seems to me the Fascist's mistake on the geopolitical level was trying to carry on the Imperialist policies of the previous era of Empire building and land grabbing. This brought them into the war simply to do this. And it opened up a new front for the British to exploit. Which forced Germany to have to intervene to save this now open flank. Which ended up in the invasion of Italy and opening up another front in Europe.



Gerecht Ror wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:
The Fascist's were also weak in the fact they could never unify as Fascist's they were left and right Fascist's within the Party it just went on and on.


I can add this attitude still lives today as competition is the base of. Italian mass mind, without competition with "neighbour" most structures would falll apart.

Anyway Fascism saved half of our ass! (I'm talian)

Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:55 am

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HP Mageson666 wrote:
What is the general attitude about this period in Italian society?


I see general indifference, people are programmed to forget this period and they simply say it was "bad" in two words.
Older people still alive though admit life was much better under the Duce, that's all they say.
Young people are too busy with loosing time to take care of this, while the true far right movements (if any) prefer to follow Hitler image and NS though polluted with xianity.
Some buildings made by Mussolini like this Milan Central Railway Station have been transformed in shopping centers and the few remaining Roman architectures are barely visibles. Though the monument is still there to remind those years. This might depict the general attitude about this ... passing away with indifference while leaving!

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Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:35 am

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So would it be correct to say that Hitler and the Nazis were Spiritual Satanists but due to the very low level, or non-existence, of Spiritual Satanism in the society, the Party was therefore Fascist? The 3rd Reich is Spiritual Satanism without the, or with very low amount of, spirituality overall, thus Fascism?


Yes there was a low level of spirituality in society as any society that has mosques, churches every where, and Jewish quarters. Hitler and some top Nazis were Spiritual Satanists. Facism could be seen as a lower grade of what Hitler did, but Germany was always the home of Satanism more so than say Turkey, so it could be construed that it was fascist.
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Did the founding fathers use magick to win the revolution? Did they use magick to create a fertile environment for it? Did Masons work magick into the 1800's to further the cause of the country? Are there any elements of the old guard of this country still doing this or are JoS members the only people fighting this battle in modern America? Were NS in Germany more advanced spiritually than the founders were?

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LightLover wrote:
Reading the sermons while listening to epic music makes me feel very powerful and makes me happy. All the sermons are so great that u dont know how much I'm learning, this is helping me so much that if Joy of satan wouldnt exist now I would be dead, lol.

By the way, this its my first post as u can see, also this will allow me to have a profile picture :lol: also I'm very shy so I dont think I will be posting so much in the beginning. Sorry to be losing your time. Thanks.

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personalities are distorted, their inner driving forces falsely interpreted, their
whole nature for the most part totally misjudged. A youthful life force—which
also knows itself to be age old—is impelled toward form; an ideology, a world
view, has been born and, strong of will, begins to contend with old forms,
ancient sacred practices, and outworn standards. This means no longer
historically but fundamentally; not in a few special domains but everywhere;
not only upon the heights but also at the roots. - Alfred Rosenberg

Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:20 am

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HeilOdin666 wrote:
Did the founding fathers use magick to win the revolution? Did they use magick to create a fertile environment for it? Did Masons work magick into the 1800's to further the cause of the country? Are there any elements of the old guard of this country still doing this or are JoS members the only people fighting this battle in modern America? Were NS in Germany more advanced spiritually than the founders were?


HP Mageson has alot of sermons on the American Revolutionaries of 1776. Yes they did use magic as Freemasonry had many lodges through out Europe AND America that were Satanic. As for the details of all of it that is not known. You could say every gentile naturally rebels against Christian rule as it is obscenely unnatural and degenerate. No one is born a slave. Who knows what causes Satan has had his hand in that have made this the free world right now and what him and the Demons continue to do. That is some thing that is always interesting to read about but as of right now we are the most knowledgeable and righteous spiritual battlers ever known in history. Any ways the Myth of the Twentieth Century is an intriguing book about historical ways of fighting jewish power along with HP Dons history sermons.
The old images of the human past have faded, the outlines of leading
personalities are distorted, their inner driving forces falsely interpreted, their
whole nature for the most part totally misjudged. A youthful life force—which
also knows itself to be age old—is impelled toward form; an ideology, a world
view, has been born and, strong of will, begins to contend with old forms,
ancient sacred practices, and outworn standards. This means no longer
historically but fundamentally; not in a few special domains but everywhere;
not only upon the heights but also at the roots. - Alfred Rosenberg

Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:49 am

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HeilOdin666 wrote:
Sometimes I find naming all of these things totally arbitrary and useless. You either like the guys in power or you dont. You either have jews and their cucks in power or you have gentiles. The name of your system is just marketing. It won't change anything if jews subvert your system regardless what you call it. I feel the same about contracts and legal documents. They are all worthless on their own.

To me people mean everything. You either made a deal with a trustworthy person or you didn't and a shaving off a tree with ink all over it changes nothing. The same goes to the constitution or anythin else. You had George Washington in power and things went one way. You have jews in power now and things go to a place that has nothing to do with the constitution. The constitution didn't change or have any power on its own and the people still did whatever they wanted. To me rules and documents are more flexible than people believe.

As for Fascism I do tend to like the idea that sometimes some of us have to put on our big boy pants and tell the kids to stop writing with crayons on the walls. I think sometimes the government needs to come along and just tell people how things will be. This should be no issue if you have the right people in power. For example a dictatorship might actually work very well if the right guy was in charge, it's just that usually the wrong guy gets in charge.


While it is true that as long as jews and their slaves hold power it doesn't matter much witch system a country has as all of them will turn into "destroy and enslave goyim", without jews in a picture naming a system can be useful in many ways. For example if I wanted to point out what is wrong with current system, aside from obvious (jews) I can say democracy does this wrong, and this good, if we didn't have a name for it I would have to say system that that and that leader had..... It is true that just as system it self the person who runs it is at least equally important true, a good leader will menage to get a best of any system while a bad one won't do much even with a good system but even then there are still better and worse systems. I myself believe in rulership of the best before anything when it comes to political systems.
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Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:54 pm

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The real problem of Italy was that 99.99% italian people was EXTREMELY catholic christian. If the pope said fascism was bad, fascism would have been wiped out in one week.
Pope is still seen like a god by old people here in Italy. They would die for him.
Creating a new spirituality would have been absolutely impossible in 1920 contest.
The Church could have never been touched by fascism because priests and bishops would have created a mass revolution.
From war point of view we can say that National Socialists arrived from Prussian army tradition, the best in Europe for centuries, while italian fascism arrived from a just united state. It is normal that we were military inferior.
The only great mistake that Duce did was joining the war because we were not able to do it.
Fascism was never spiritually advanced but it has been an example of how people can rise and create a great nation despite extreme poverty and ignorance

Post Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:42 am

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If I am not mistaken after joining the war it was created the "Salò Republic" - where Salò is a town on the Garda Lake - in which Mussolini wanted to deepen the relationship with Hitler and Germany.
If they had succeded most likely the Spiritual Nazi side of the war would have entered Italy with Hitler's contribution to it, giving a Spiritial boost at the right moment and crushing xianity in its very "headquarter"?

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Post Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:36 pm

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Combating Marxist collectivist ideology with a another collectivist ideology is a retarded idea , therefore Fascism is a failure and abhorrent ideology .
with Marxism it at least offered an end goal of a free classless stateless utopia , Fascism never even had the decency to lie
glorifying the state , glorifying submissiveness and servitude to the God of the state , it never offered meaning or a spiritual purpose beyond meaningless nonsense of restoring Glory of Rome And other similar vague empty platitudes , Fascist ideology is materalist through and through , where the god of the state is the be-all end-all , and in that regard it is no different to godless Marxism which it claimed to combat

Fascism is also imperialism with the mask off , whereas the imperial powers of the time tried to put a flowery spin on their motives and used pretexts like -bringing civlization and culture to the savages- fascism never even bothered with that and went straight to land theft and murder .
War crimes aside, Fascist Italy's lust for power and the incompetent way they went about it , was a major burden on Germany's fight against the allies and may as well be one of the causes of the eventual downfall of the Reich

Finally , white people , NS and WN should distance themselves as much as possible from Italian fascism , normal folk are appalled by it and for good reason , submissiveness and servitude to the collective and to the state is naturally repulsive to the healthy instincts of people , Whites should also remember that the state they find themselves in today is largely the doing of fools like Mussolini

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Okami I see your point and I agree. I'm not really dogmatic about any of this. I'm pretty open. I just want to find the truth.

Gerecht that is an AMAZING building in those photos. I love European architecture. When I was a kid I always watched the History Channel. I saw so many documentaries that depicted things like that.

Even when I was brainwashed and thought NS and Fascists were evil, I always loved their style. I thought, man, the allies really made a bunch of shit. I loved the Nazi uniforms, the marvelous Nazi architecture. The monuments they built. Even their tanks and weapons just looked and often were better. I sometimes secretly wished they had won, if only for a moment.

Now days we build nothing to last. I HATE our architecture and monuments and general style in most that we do. The only cool things we build are remnants of stolen, often Nazi designs such as our Howitzer etc.

I hate our cold uninviting glass everywhere building. The Jews may stIill be trying to destroy Nazi monuments that were built like stone battleships 1000 years from now, while on day 2 of the fall of the JWO, a crowd with rocks can destroy these ugly "modern" monuments and buildings.

I hate how they put a wall of glass and now everyone can see me do squats or run on a treadmill. Maybe the Muslims can scope out their next rape victims thru the glass. None of this shit is even functional or asthetically pleasing. It's just some fresh engineer that farted into auto cad and now it's the talk of the town, and no use of sacred geometry or considering the function of the building to serve it's people.

I hope we build beautiful stone and cement things in the future that will last forever.

Post Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:56 am

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Alexander wrote:
Combating Marxist collectivist ... day is largely the doing of fools like Mussolini


I can only partially agree.
Said that Fascism is born and dead quickly due to his lack of spiritual basis, if we hadn't had Fascism, Italy would have fallen under the jewish communism and would have been allied to Russia and the jewish powers, and maybe today we would not own our houses and lives.
The jew-programmed mind of Italian was ready to accept communism, and Fascism geared in using this mass mind attitude. Same did Hitler as he arrived when Germany needed a strong leader, who could have been a communist leader if Hitler wasn't there.
Let's say Fascism was only as an aspirine against a flu, while Nazism was the cure to delete the flu forever and never get ill again.
But if you are ill and the mass mind cannot produce nothing more than an aspirine, it's the only cure you can afford!
Miliardi di Gentili soffrono ogni giorno sotto l'ebreo. E' nostro dovere come Satanisti diffondere la Verità e recuperarli! Hail Satana!!!

Billions of Gentiles suffer daily under the jew. It is our duty as Satanists spread the Truth and recover them! Hail Satan!!!

Post Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:13 pm
Gerecht Ror wrote:
The jew-programmed mind of Italian was ready to accept communism
I think i've seen this comment mentioned a number of times; I'm not entirely convinced of this notion of Italians especially having an imbedded Judaic-mind. The opinion often gives this sense of helplessness, as if 2000 years of Christianity have outweighed 8000 years of the rites of the gods. As far as times memorable, Italians have a strong devotion to religious things. This is true today, however, the old gods have been replaced by Hebrews. Italy has been a stronghold of the enemy for good reason. There is still a marked affection for pre-Christian culture despite the many Stalinist edicts to rid it.

Quelque admirables, en effet, qu'aient été, à cet égard, les Romains, ils n'échappent point toujours au soupçon de ce paganisme permanent et secret, dont, au dire de quelques-uns, l'Italie, à aucune époque, n'a pu se débarrasser entièrement. (Much as the efforts carried out by the Romans have certainly been admirable, they can never fully escape to the suspicion of a secret and permanent paganism, from which some say Italy has never been able to free itself.) Albert Soubies, 1899

[. . .] le pittoresque et le paganisme chers à la magnifique Venise! (the picturesqueness and paganism so dear to magnificent Venice!) Maurice Barrès

Grandmothers make the muladhara mudra.
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In Sicily there are phallus shops everywhere. We find their significance by way of Plotinus' description of Mercury, where old statues represent him with his "organ in active posture" conveying "the generative principle", Enneads L.5.C.6.
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Tarantella is a Bacchanalia dance.
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Bull sports formerly in Italy and France, still in Spain, and by extension New Spain and Rodeo in the United States.
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I haven't seen a city that doesn't have an image or statue of the gods, sometimes even in Christian settings.

Post Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:58 pm

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This is true we have Pagan Satanic heritage and still it survives in our deep mind! Otherwise we would not even have JoS translated in Italian and we would be hopeless.
Also the Chinese had and still have enormous Spiritual heritage and symbols but they succumbed to communism unfortunately.
Same would have happened in Italy - my personal opinion - if a strong reaction like Fascism would not have taken place.
Yes I agree sometimes my affirmation might seem hopeless ... but it's not, Italians too can be Spiritually healed except the most corrupted ones of course. It must happen or we are doomed too despite any symbol we still have
Miliardi di Gentili soffrono ogni giorno sotto l'ebreo. E' nostro dovere come Satanisti diffondere la Verità e recuperarli! Hail Satana!!!

Billions of Gentiles suffer daily under the jew. It is our duty as Satanists spread the Truth and recover them! Hail Satan!!!


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