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Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:52 am
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Why The Current Left, Left Me

For the large part of my life I was on the Left and still I am, that is why I left what is called the current Left awhile ago. Its all just Marxism, which is the attempt of a Jewish globalist cabal of capitalists to hijack the entire world and bring it under their control by ownership which is antithetical all to the original Left. The original struggle of the Left was to push Western society out of the Church and Monarchist feudal regime built on the oppressive and criminal Jewish ideology of Christianity. And into a modern, just and ethical, evolving society based on classic European ideals such of the [Pagan] Greeks. The American Constitution is a radical Left Wing document. The original Left were opposed to the Statism of the Monarchies and the Theocraticism of the Church. They wanted the creation of Constitutional Republic's built on rights and freedoms and merits and new economic ideals. The American Revolution was a successful model of this. When the Revolution to accomplish the same happened in France the Jews hijacked the entire movement at gun point with their control of capital and the Jacobin's and started a civil war and Statist Terror that murdered tens of thousands of people and destroyed France on every level. This happened because Jewish money power took over the Masonic centers that were the centers and organizers of the new social changes. To hijack them and use them as a tool to overthrow the Gentile nation and put them under their control by ownership. The ethos of the Jacobin's in the next century became the Communist Manifesto.


With the rise of the Industrial Revolution came the changes in social demographics' and the gilded age that caused the revolutionary movements to shift towards the struggle between labour and capital and the problems of Liberalism in creating a situation of predatory economic and social crisis. And the rise of Socialist ideology. The Jews created Marxism to hijack this and put the world under their control by ownership. Other leaders on the Left warned their compatriots about the danger of Marxism and it was a move by the International Capitalists to subvert their causes.

When the Russian Revolution happened which was eventually going to come into being due to the same reasons it was inevitable in France. It was the new government of different Parities that for the most part wanted to create a constitutional government similar to America on a Russian model. When the Communist's failed even by violation of their own principals to win the power they wanted by vote in the Duma. They simply pulled out the guns like their Jacobin ancestors and started arresting and murdering their social-political opposition and plunged Russia into a civil war that killed millions. Just like in France before. Then moved out and slaughtered the different classes in Russia from the intellectual to the worker to the peasant farmers. In the act of simply killing them and robbing them not just of their lives but of their prosperity. The survivors were literally enslaved in a criminal system of labour exploitation with no rights. Literally as the Jewish call non-Jews....Goyim, meaning cattle.


I was trained as part of my profession to be a Marxist, social-political organizer for the Left, to go into communities and organize to create Social Justice. Basically a Commissar of current year.

Personally on the Left I was between Communism and Social Liberalism. Being born working class in a Unionist supporting family you become class conscious. However Social Liberalism still allows for the problems of bourgeoisie society to continue which ends up in the crisis of class exploitation, social and racial degeneration and class warfare that gives rise to Marxism. Which leads to a brutal new form of state capitalism which reduces the population to cattle property of the Globalist Communist state. So it does not solve the problems of capitalism it merely accelerates them to their logical end. Also its policies of dealing with class conflict are simply murderous and dysgenic. I have heard all the apologetic's but Marx openly called for such. Within this its anti-Race realism, radical psychophysical egalitarianism and one worldism [Communism literally means Universal and aimed to create a globalist society] does not work. It simply accelerates the problems of current Liberalism. We see the failed results of these Social Liberal and Marxist polices in the West today. I also rejected Cultural Marxism because after spending years in College being indoctrinated in it.... its basically nonsense meant to destabilize society for the actual full on Marxist revolution to come from its chaos.

The Jewish elites and race have simply hijacked Social Justice and progressive social movements to destroy everything the Left originally stood for. The Jews created Marxism to destroy the family, to destroy the workers, to destroy social liberty, to destroy all intellectual, economic, technological, scientific progress. To destroy the nations, races and cultures of the world.


This is why when I found out about the reality of the Jewish question. National Socialism naturally made sense to me. It was the simple and honest conclusion of what the original Western Leftist movements and social progressive movements in general, from the scientific to other fields would have naturally created on their own. If not for Jewish subversion. Because that is what it actually was, the synthesis of pure and honest Western thinking and social advancements free of the Jewish poison. National Socialism was also not a Fascist Government, it was a Democratic Republic based on Classical ideals. The National Socialists held free elections even during the war. People voted for them because they kept their promises, served and improved society and cared for their own People. That's why. If Hitler had of been the brutal dictator we are told he would not have gone all over Germany, unarmed in a open car with just a driver and visited with the average German People and workers on a weekly basis. In a German Nation were fire arm ownership was legal and encouraged. Hitler didn't fear his own People. He didn't have a reason to. Even when the bombs of Jewish International Capitalism and Marxism rained down on them. They didn't waver in their support of Hitler and the National Socialist ideal and state and gave it their full support willingly. During the bombing raids when people in the shelters were asking why they were being attacked, other Germans simply stated...."Because Hitler wanted to create a better world." It was true and in current year we all know it.


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Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:20 am

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Thanks for sharing your side of things. I don't come from the same background so I never really understand liberalism.

I come from rural white working class people in the heart of the country. It takes years for the trends of the coast to take hold here.

The people are good here. Mainly the blight on us is christianity. I don't know what you would call us politically. It is it's own thing here. People sit in the middle of the spectrum and the state may flip from republican or democrat from time to time.

People just want to be left alone to live life. They want it to be reasonably possible to find a job and start a family or start a business. They want time to do what they like on the weekend. They don't like laws in the way of all this. The main problem is jewish control sometimes infecting the politics and diverting away from these core values, but at the end of the day people value these things.

Maybe we aren't even political here and that's why it's hard to understand. Maybe we are just "free"? Or we used to be. It's been getting chipped away, but our freedom we once had and our history and independent nature still speak to us. We never needed a "liberal movement" to give us these things because we lived it and often still do; until the rest of the nation drags us down with some crazy trend.

Can you explain the democratic republic and how it worked in Germany? Hitler was elected and then served for life. I didn't think the other positions were elected. Were governors, or the European equivalent elected? I assumed he appointed them. Did they serve for life?

I can't see how my state model compares to NS Germany. Maybe it is close idk. If someone completed the Magnum Opus could they in theory keep the position forever? Could Hitler remove a governor if they were bad or did they have to lose an election? Also I though they removed the Parliament law making body. That's like if my governor removed the State Assembly and I don't know how that would work. Like who makes the laws now?

Also why can't we implement National Socialism at every State level and let it trickle upward to the Federal Government? Eventually the representatives coming from NS states will go to Washington and bring it there and eventually to the White House. It's much easier to control and change an individual state.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:55 am
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Most people are on the spectrum of Liberalism, were you are its probably the Classical Liberalism which reflects the Founding of the American nation. Back in the day they used to mint coins with "Mind your own business" printed on them. Hitler was the leader of the Party for life or till he stepped down. He forced the other Party council leadership to step down way back in the 20's as they were incompetent and holding back success this allowed them to win. The reason the National Socialist owned the entire Reichstag was due to when National elections came around after the first period of Hitler's chancellorship almost everyone in Germany voted for the National Socialist Party and this caused the total dissolution of all the other Political Parties like the Social Democrats. And with the Communist Party banned for being a domestic terrorist organization that attempted yet again to overthrow the elected German government [the Spartacus uprising was not that long ago] just like they did to the Russian's. The National Socialist Party became the only Party in the Nation.

Hitler created a constitutional Republic in the classical Greek style which involves a single Party state officially built on a single ideal. Jefferson it was I believed didn't want a multiple Party system in the American Republic and warned it would lead the chaos we have today. Degrelle stated Hitler learned political structure from Plato and created a Platonic Republic. Mike Walsh goes into the elections and such in Germany in detail check his work out. As part of the Republican system people had to under go special moral and educational training and testing to see if they qualified for Party duties and membership to keep the dross out. Hitler ended Party membership recruitment upon becoming the Chancellor for this reason he knew all the wrong people would want in for the wrong reasons. Before they had the enemy persecution for being NS to short out the dross.

On the Democratic level they held local and national referendums a famous example being the referendum in Germany and Austria for the reunification which both nations voted for in the majority. People also had the right to protest if they wanted and they did and were listened to, but it was for petty things as their was no reason to have major protests. From what I understand form their own parties still but there was no reason. In general National Socialist society was democratic and People based, most German's didn't even call it National Socialism, just Volkish, literally The Folk. The National Socialist Party had major social policies like the Nationalist Labour movement to indoctrination the Youth into NS ideals which ended the classism which had lead to the class war Germany had undergone which lead to the Marxist's getting so far. The National Labour Service was designed so all Germans of all social classes would live, work and be educated into National Socialism together and see each as German brothers and part of a greater People. This accomplished peacefully what millions of Communist bullets didn't.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:34 pm
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The great danger of capitalism is it creates a society which allows for unqualified private individuals and interests at odds with the people to take control by ownership and capital of the whole society and make the whole of society subservient to Plutocratic rule, it creates a artificial class system based on material status which confers social status. Which creates a artificial and destructive all dominating value system that ends in destruction of society.


There is this kind of autism by the Libertarians were if some long gone guy wrote something on paper about what capitalism is in its theory. That what actually happens when the theory is applied in reality is not real, only the fantasy on paper is. Its autistic.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:41 pm

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HP Mageson666 wrote:
In general National Socialist society was democratic and People based


I don't believe in democracy, most people are too dumb to make the right choices. I think the best model is aristocracy.
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Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:00 pm
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The argument against democracy is one of qualification, however what is the qualification of aristocracy.... blood and jeboo gave them divine right. And this failed as the aristocracy created a lot of imbeciles, psychopaths, retards and strange persons in general. Which basically just exploited their own People hand in hand with the jews even allowing the jews to predate on the People with extreme criminality as long as they got their shekels. There is a reason Europeans wanted out from the aristocracy. The classism in those societies alone was extreme and oppressive. There was once a time 85 percent of Europeans were cattle property of some Monarch. And would be hung as run away slave if they left the serfdom. The Monarchies helped make the jews as powerful as they today. What happens when the aristocracy is too dumb to make right choices....

It was also the German aristocracy that cost Germany the War by acting as fifth column, tried to murder Hitler numerous times and start a civil war. All to destroy National Socialist Germany. Due to their classism.

Democracy and aristocracy both replace merit with their practical brand of superstitious right to rule. Which is why the National Socialist State had a Republic, with direct democracy for the local and national level as well. It all balanced out. The Greeks stated Democracy can only work in a city state of ten thousand people or less. Anything bigger needs a Monarchy or Republic. The Germans solved this problem.

Pramantha wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:
In general National Socialist society was democratic and People based


I don't believe in democracy, most people are too dumb to make the right choices. I think the best model is aristocracy.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:03 pm

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"Which is why the National Socialist State had a Republic, with direct democracy for the local and national level as well. It all balanced out. The Greeks stated Democracy can only work in a city state of ten thousand people or less. Anything bigger needs a Monarchy or Republic. The Germans solved this problem."

How did they solve this problem? Was it the fact that the NS controlled government did NOT put stupid propositions to a vote? Because now if we did it we would be voting on things like marriage to aninals, muh feels etc.

I was under the perhaps incorret notion that germans did not have a legislature making laws. My understanding was that decrees were handed down from Hitler or his appointed leaders at various levels.

Let's take my state as an example of making a government NS. I don't see how we can make the legislature and governor all NS. The districts are Gerrymandered, the population is full of non loyal, mexicans, marxists, and uneducated.

The first SERIOUS NS issue that was passed would be shouted down by all the disloyal and the various groups I named above. Then the NS would not be reelected. Not to mention the outside political and media pressure from other states.

Also any governor or even the President can't be made to serve for life. Again it would be shouted and protested down. It would need constitutional changes and that would be legally challenged and we would lose to Marxist judges.

We can slowly over the course of 200 years impliment a slow change towards NS but by then it's too late for us. On the other hand a blitzkrieg of NS political change may also sink us.

It just seems we are stuck in the mire here. I really hope for this change but it's a long complicated road.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:04 pm

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This is an interesting post, thanks for this new way of thinking about "Liberalism". I wonder if the actual distinction between true "Left" and "Right" wing politics is similar to the distinction between the RHP and LHP. It seems that genuine right-wing politics sees the governed as a means to an end for the ruling party, thus submission to authority is encouraged among the people, as spiritual submission to something is promoted by the RHP.

What do people here think of National Anarchism, the idea of living in small, stateless communities delineated by tribal boundaries?
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Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:48 pm

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In Spain, happeened the same thing: at first the left was a legitimate movement that represented the people when they rebelled against the pro slavery xian aristocratic system but quickly the jews took control of the movement, provoking decades of wars and misery that culminated with the civil war of 1936.
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Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:58 pm
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A person is both a individual and a member of a community at once, and life needs to be balanced on that. Just like you have different social, life duties based on your different roles, your job, maybe your a parent, a husband or wife on and on. So too are you a member of society and a citizen. The personal issue I take with extreme individualism is it praises renunciation of duties based on a real principal. Why not just walk out the door and leave your wife and kids to fend for themselves after all your an individual..... We know that is a immoral thing and why. Its the same thing with refusing your natural duty to your racial, national community. It just leads to degeneration of society that you still have to live in.

I get Anarchism, but it like Marxism has never worked when put into practice the way its supposed to on paper. Its a train wreck. You need a free and highly organized society with a government with the right qualifications to have a working society. People need individual freedoms so they can be happy and grow and develop themselves and actualize that into society which makes society better off. And they need social, national duties to sustain and improve their society which is the life support system for these freedoms and the evolution of beings and culture to exist. Too much collectivism stamps out the needed aspect of what the quality of groups of individuals require to make a better life and society and too much individualism does the same on the other end.


HailVictory88 wrote:
This is an interesting post, thanks for this new way of thinking about "Liberalism". I wonder if the actual distinction between true "Left" and "Right" wing politics is similar to the distinction between the RHP and LHP. It seems that genuine right-wing politics sees the governed as a means to an end for the ruling party, thus submission to authority is encouraged among the people, as spiritual submission to something is promoted by the RHP.

What do people here think of National Anarchism, the idea of living in small, stateless communities delineated by tribal boundaries?

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:02 pm
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That has been the problem, the jewish problem every step of the way. Whites work to improve our situation and civilization and the jew is in their trying to wreck it and subvert this every step of the way. Like the dangerous virus they are.

Wotanwarrior wrote:
In Spain, happeened the same thing: at first the left was a legitimate movement that represented the people when they rebelled against the pro slavery xian aristocratic system but quickly the jews took control of the movement, provoking decades of wars and misery that culminated with the civil war of 1936.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:06 pm
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How much of these can be easily changed by striking down the constitutional amendments a certain tribe has been using their lobbies to create and by reinstating the original constitutional laws especially on the qualification of citizenship passing with that a law declaring jews as a hostile alien race which does not have the legal qualifications of citizenship as they declare themselves not White anyway openly. Then using existing laws to simply declare mass arrests of jews and their agents within American society. And put those FEMA camps to good use the Jews built to put us all in. As a prison camp for processing the jews who are to be shipped to Israel and to process the jews who are to be charged and put trial for crimes against the American People and Humanity. This might have to be done under a marital law state. As the problems have gotten that bad. Some people might complain about that, but Martial Law state for a time as forced intervention is better then going literally extinct as a race and culture.


HeilOdin666 wrote:
"Which is why the National Socialist State had a Republic, with direct democracy for the local and national level as well. It all balanced out. The Greeks stated Democracy can only work in a city state of ten thousand people or less. Anything bigger needs a Monarchy or Republic. The Germans solved this problem."

How did they solve this problem? Was it the fact that the NS controlled government did NOT put stupid propositions to a vote? Because now if we did it we would be voting on things like marriage to aninals, muh feels etc.

I was under the perhaps incorret notion that germans did not have a legislature making laws. My understanding was that decrees were handed down from Hitler or his appointed leaders at various levels.

Let's take my state as an example of making a government NS. I don't see how we can make the legislature and governor all NS. The districts are Gerrymandered, the population is full of non loyal, mexicans, marxists, and uneducated.

The first SERIOUS NS issue that was passed would be shouted down by all the disloyal and the various groups I named above. Then the NS would not be reelected. Not to mention the outside political and media pressure from other states.

Also any governor or even the President can't be made to serve for life. Again it would be shouted and protested down. It would need constitutional changes and that would be legally challenged and we would lose to Marxist judges.

We can slowly over the course of 200 years impliment a slow change towards NS but by then it's too late for us. On the other hand a blitzkrieg of NS political change may also sink us.

It just seems we are stuck in the mire here. I really hope for this change but it's a long complicated road.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:29 pm

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Thank you for your wisdom, HP. It does seem that a proper balance between individualism and collectivism will solve a lot of the current social problems. Humans are both social and individual animals.

An interesting anecdote on Marxist ultra-collectivism: Biologist E.O. Wilson remarked "Karl Marx was right, socialism works, it is just that he had the wrong species", referring to the extremely collectivist behaviors observed in ants (that are naturally unfit for humans.)
"There will come a day, when all the lies will collapse under their own weight,
and truth will again triumph."-Dr. Joseph Goebbels

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:17 pm

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Would it be better and easier to just create a confederation of several states that support NS? Already, whatever government heads this group is starting with a totally clean slate. It can be filled with the most capable and honorable people. You would avoid the task of cleaning up the federal mess we have now.

Then you just clean up the member states of infiltrators and disfuntion. This is easy task compared to fixing the government in DC. The states are much smoother running and comparatively less corrupt.

You can then let other states not join if they dont want to. If New Yorkers want to follow the Jews down with the ship let them. We need to cut a lot of fat/dross anyway.

Many states also have banking systems and defense forces so it's not like you start from scratch as the founders had to do. A little retooling is all that is needed.

Post Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:34 pm
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The point is society is a creation of the soul of its group. White People have been trying even unconsciously to recreate our natural society we lost to this alien jewish invasion from xianity and onwards. It comes down to the jews are like a tick have infested our society and are trying to create their own race soul within it. To create a social environment in their own spiritual image. Which is in the Talmud. The struggle is simply against Jewishness. The original Left were Free Mason's who consciously tried to bring back the Aryan world they could reconnect with from the Greek and Roman texts they could find. This is why the educational system they made had the study of classical Greek ideals as mandatory part of it.

Post Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:17 am
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This is a good point, the evolutionary psychologist, Professor Macdonald mentioned this, the jewish race is a hive mind themselves and their own social norms are based on a ant like social model, were individuality does not exist. Marx just brought the jewish god down to earth in the Marxist state. This is just the projection of the jewish racial psyche in the works of Marx, like jewish Freud projected the normal depraved state of the jewish soul onto the Gentiles and called it a perfected science. All Freud's clients and study cases were jews like himself. Reading Freud is a good exercise in understanding what is up on a jew's mind which is poop, incest, criminality in general and mental illness. Rabbi Freud created whole personality types based off how a person takes a shit........So jewish. He was spending his days psychoanalyzing turds.......jews are the poo people. In their own writings they admit their scat obsession they even have special prayers for taking a dump.

This is Freud's theme song:
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HailVictory88 wrote:
Thank you for your wisdom, HP. It does seem that a proper balance between individualism and collectivism will solve a lot of the current social problems. Humans are both social and individual animals.

An interesting anecdote on Marxist ultra-collectivism: Biologist E.O. Wilson remarked "Karl Marx was right, socialism works, it is just that he had the wrong species", referring to the extremely collectivist behaviors observed in ants (that are naturally unfit for humans.)

Post Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:59 pm

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You have many great thing to say. I hope you do not think I am being obtuse when I ask so much. I just seek out knowledge like a Crack addict. :D

To be true national socialist we have to put satanism into political practice. Right now we are Satanist yes, but NS only on the inside. When can we live it? We have no political power and I guess I am just not sure what kind of chess game it will take to get there. We have to spill over into the material realm at some point and that game is as complicated as the spiritual game.

Post Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:30 pm
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I enjoy the conversation, we do have political power, much of politics' is influence, our rtr's are influencing politics' on a geopolitical level. This year in Germany, Merkel and her coalition government is up for election..... We got Trump elected over Hillary despite all the energy the jews put into Hillary. Our rtr's defeated all the Kabbalistic magic of the Jew World Order in America what will happen in Germany were Merkel is at a 32 percent approval rating and its just the start of the year. We are also sinking the jewish global media empire which the jews are whining about in their media.

HeilOdin666 wrote:
You have many great thing to say. I hope you do not think I am being obtuse when I ask so much. I just seek out knowledge like a Crack addict. :D

To be true national socialist we have to put satanism into political practice. Right now we are Satanist yes, but NS only on the inside. When can we live it? We have no political power and I guess I am just not sure what kind of chess game it will take to get there. We have to spill over into the material realm at some point and that game is as complicated as the spiritual game.

Post Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:02 pm

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I used to be a Leftist. Not a Marxist or anything but just a simple Liberal. Now I consider myself mixed, more Conservative but somewhat Libertarian.

God, what a stupid boy I was back in the day when I thought Liberalism was the best way to go :lol:
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:38 am
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Wanting a free society is good, its just the jews are constantly trying to move the goal posts on what this means. Till we lose our freedoms, People, Nation, and lives.

In any society you have freedoms and restrictions its just for what and why that matters. All we need is the principals to be right and we can create a great, free and powerful society for our people. Based on those principals as the foundation.


Brdredr wrote:
I used to be a Leftist. Not a Marxist or anything but just a simple Liberal. Now I consider myself mixed, more Conservative but somewhat Libertarian.

God, what a stupid boy I was back in the day when I thought Liberalism was the best way to go :lol:


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